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Lily Hammer 8:42 Fri May 6
Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/61342349

Quite interesting article discussing why it might be a good idea to go the way of rugby and other sports to avoid time wasting shithousery.

Some of the Opta stats are intersting and no real surprise in certain cases.

We have been one of the better clubs when it comes to the ball being in play more than others.

No surprise that the worst game for ball being out of play this season was our home game vs Brentford, and the worst culprits as a team this season is Aston Villa.

Absolutely tallies with my memories of those wanky oppostions this season.

Pulis' Stoke are one of the worst teams in recent history. One of their matches had the ball in play for just 39 minutes.

I'm leaning towards this idea of 60 minute matches where the clock stops every time the ball is out of play. Radical move from the traditional 90 minutes, but when you look at the stats in the article, you have to wonder if the game might become better for this.



What do you magnificent cunts think?

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master 9:00 Fri May 6
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
Why not still 90 minutes and nobody gets short changed. Unless my season ticket is going down by a 3rd too?

Jasnik 9:02 Fri May 6
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
Think ref's need to just stop time wasting antics.

Lily Hammer 9:45 Fri May 6
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
master

It seems on average the ball is only in play for about 55 minutes each game, so it’s unlikely a 60 minute stop clock match would finish any earlier than matches finish now.

Alfs 10:03 Fri May 6
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
This was mooted last season. Personally, I think it's a good idea as refs will have less influence in their match fixing.

2 appeals for a VAR review would also be a good idea, similar to Cricket.

Jaan Kenbrovin 10:22 Fri May 6
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
I think football needs to go back to how it started, with no rules* or refs. Just let 11 blokes kick the shit out of each other for 90 minutes whilst attacking and defending the goals, Shrovetide style.

*other than no manslaughter or murders allowed.

twoleftfeet 10:34 Fri May 6
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
Time wasting has been worse this year than any other year I can remember.

I just watched the Sheffield Wednesday keeper take almost 2 minutes to take a goal kick! I wouldn’t mind but it’s only 40 minutes into the game!

Far Cough 10:44 Fri May 6
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
Why not? it works in the NFL and NBA

Come On You Irons 10:49 Fri May 6
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
It is definitely a good idea to implement this. But, as it is a good idea and will diminish corruption in the game, the powers that be will never implement it.

With Kind Regards 12:33 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
Yes.

Takashi Miike 12:44 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
I'd like to see a similar rule that's used in certain rugby codes where play continues but the physio is allowed to enter the field of play. I think that would cut out most of the diving/play acting immediately

Woodford Green 1:08 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
About 15 years ago they introduced a rule that the GK could only hold the ball in his hands for no more than 6 seconds.

Any idea why this got reversed?

Alfs 1:40 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
Woodford Green 1:08 Sat May 7

Often wondered that so I just did a quick Google and apparently it's still a rule, but at the discretion of the referee.

Manuel 5:40 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
It's a tricky one as don't want to keep fucking around with the game, I mean just look at some of the ideas mooted just on this thread. It's definitely getting worse though and players going down pretending to have head injuries.

One thing they should do that won't require drastic changes is just start adding more time on at the end, i.e instead of 4 mins make it 8. It just appears that the right length of time doesn't get added on in most games.

stewie griffin 7:38 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
Been a soapbox of mine for a long time. Football loves to present itself as fast and free flowing but it's as stop start as anything else.

55 minutes in play, 35 minutes not in play and 15 minutes for half time. That's 50 minutes rest for 55 minutes of exercise. And still they moan about being tired.
The average TENNIS player runs more in an hour than footballers do, and they play on consecutive days.

BENT

Hermit Road 9:58 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
I know added time at the end of a half wouldn’t equate exactly to ball in play, but these numbers do add to what we all ‘now about how arbitrary the refs added time is. All that pointing at their watch that they do as if to indicate the time will be added and we all know it’s bollocks. Players and teams waste time because they are certain the ref won’t add it. For me it has been one of the things that has put off watching football over the last few years all the time wasting that goes unpunished.

Sven Roeder 10:11 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
Was looking up some figures of actual playing time in various sports ....while watching an AFL game where they play 4 20min quarters of real playing time where each of the 20mins take 30-32 mins to finish

American football supposedly takes 3hrs 10mins for 11 mins of live action
Baseball 2hrs 56 for 18mins
Basketball 2hrs 18 to complete 48 mins (4 x 12min quarters) with a stop clock
Football 1hr 55mins to have 57mins of live action in the 90 mins

Actually think 30mins a half with the clock stopping would be a good idea. Would be more football than in games such as Brentford's visit to us and the E/T between Real & Man C
Would mean all this dawdling and delaying restarts would become pointless and hopefully disappear

New Jersey 10:24 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
I even hate this when we time waste! I remember at the Boleyn Jussi getting booked for it and it was only the first half but then again he was under the instructions of BFS!

Everybody who receives treatment for an injury should be off for 15 minutes, that would stop the play acting cunts.

Mike Oxsaw 10:52 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
There's always been an element of time "wasting" in the game, especially when players want a quick breather.

It does appear to have been "stretched" in recent years and become part of some managers' game plan.

It also appears to be happening earlier in games, which may be an indication that we're at or passed a professional players endurance level and they've building in more unofficial "recovery time"..

Sven Roeder 11:07 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
The latest wheeze is goal kicks where both centre halves stand inside the penalty area
Keeper looks at centre half
Centre half looks at keeper
Keeper looks at centre half
Centre half looks at keeper
Keeper looks at centre half
Centre half looks at keeper
Keeper waves them forward and waits til they have jogged 30m
Keeper kicks ball after having wasted a minute

If the clock started when the goal kick was taken this would go

JayeMPee 11:33 Sat May 7
Re: Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'?
Simple solution is to do what Rugby Union has been doing for years. Have a 90 minute clock for all to see, Injuries and substitutions stop the clock. On 45 and 90 minutes (and extra time) the match stops the moment the ball goes out of play.. That way everyone in the stadium knows when the game will finish and it will be a kick up the arse for the corrupt referees.

We might also use the sin bin instead of yellow cards, that way the team who has been sinned against benefits and not some other team in future fixtures.

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